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>> a genius? >> absolute genius. >> i would rather have a genius who understands the tax code who wants to rorm it. >> no one has shown more genius in the way to maneuver around the tax code. >> the man is a genius. >> live from new york snl flips over the presidential debate and trump's taxes. >> hasn't released his tax returns which means he's either not that rich. >> wrong. >> not that charitable. >> wrong. >> or has never paid taxes in his life. >> warmer. ♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. it is the billion dollar october surprise delivered to the "new york times'" doorstep. three pages from donald trump's 1995 tax returns reporting a loss in excess of -- almost a billion dollars. the loss reported by the times could have allowed trump to legally avoid paying income
taxes for 18 years. he has not released subsequent tax returns to reveal if he paid federal income tax in that time period. joining me kristen welker and kelly o'donnell. welcome both. first of all, kristen, the democrats reacting to this of course. but trump's surrogates haven't denied the legitimacy of the tax returns. it would be legal. yet donald trump, in fact, on the defense and striking out against hillary clinton on saturday night. >> he certainly did. in a number of ways. first how the clinton campaign is responding. this is the issue they want to talk about. they have been calling on him to release taxes for some time. this gives memo more fodder to do it. that's what the clinton campaign did yesterday. they said if you're so smart, such a genius, release the tax return. that's the tactic you could see from them. the issue of transparency.
you're right on saturday. donald trump took sharp aim at secretary clinton, mocking her for getting sick during the 9/11 memorial. also launching baseless accusations of her of infidelity. i asked about those in the previous hour. basically they are not dig any identifying that with a response except to say it is a sign that he's in a rocky period of his campaign and he's sharpening his personal attacks. she's bracing for more personal attacks but they want to put the focus on releasing his taxes on the campaign trail today. she'll be trying to win over more of the millennial voters in ohio. >> she hasn't been in ohio since labor day. ohio, a very big stretch for them. they initially thought they could get it. they have been discovering that ohio is one of the states like iowa which, importantly, has a lot of the voters she has not been able to reach. voters who are predominantly white, not college educated and
haven't been flocking to her at all. one of the questions about the trump tax returns is what would he do about these real estate write-offs that are legal but the ways that the real estate industry is able to depreciate and write off losses for years. this was trump last september. >> i fight like hell to pay as little as possible? can i say that? i'm not a politician. i fight like hell because it is an expense. i can speak for myself. i pay a lot of tax but i fight like hell to make it as low as possible. >> now, kelly, the reaction to this might be from voters. we don't know how voters are going to react. it is too early to poll on this. we are out in the streets. we're talking to people about it today. the reaction among people i have spoken to is, so what? they're not necessarily trump supporters but they say
everybody takes whatever legal tax breaks you can. >> a few of us are signing up to pay more. people relate to that and the fact that it is legal. it's more harmful that this document shows that he had such a significant loss. that undercuts his business prowess. we understand it was the casino business, all of that. >> and the plaza hotel. >> he portrays himself as a winner. this is not a winning result. three pages of the 1995 tax return. not a full story but gives us a window into that part. that's actually more destructive than the notion of whether or not he paid federal tax. he has let people know he uses every advantage. he could resolve it by releasing some of the returns. he's declined to do that. i seem to recall mitt romney had the same response about not wanting to pay more. many americans get frustrated and think if they have to pay perhaps those who make the most
should be able to. the fact that it's legal under cuts that. you're hearing from the trump surrogates the idea that somehow he's a whiz. he came back from the defeat to rebuild his career. a lot of good storytelling here. he could resolve it and chooses not to. >> as far as i know from what i can recall what we saw of his tax plans, it doesn't take away -- >> no. he doesn't have a plan to relve this issue. except to argue that he's lived within the system. he knows it because he's taken advantage of it and he could fix it. how he would fix it, to whose benefit, none of that's spelled out. >> this was trump this morning trying to make up for the fact that he didn't take advantage of his openings last week in the debate on cyber security to go after hillary clinton on her e-mails. this is what he had to say today meeting with veterans. >> hillary clinton's only experience in cyber security involves her criminal scheme to
violate federal law, engineering a massive cover-up and putting the entire nation in harm's way. the fact that a former senator and secretary of state claimed not to know what the letter c means is just one more example of why she is totally unfit to hold the office of president. >> this was his recovery today, if you will. >> what was fascinating is it felt like the response i think his campaign and a lot of supporters wanted him to give during the first debate when he and secretary clinton were asked about cyber security. he said she's threatened our national security. by using her private e-mail server. when i talked to voters particularly those young voters who say we are giving third party candidates a real look, it goes to the issue of trust. can they trust her?
we are still talking about her e-mails a month before election day shows how much of a problem and a staying problem this has been in terms of her ability to rebuild trust with voters. >> kristen welker, kelly o'donnell, thank you very much. let's talk to the reporter who found the trump tax documents in her office mailbox -- snail mail, not in e-mail. suzanne craig joins me now. can you tell us first of all how did you see them? did you realize right away what you had? did it look like junk mail? >> it didn't look like junk mail. it was addressed from the trump tower. it was a friday afternoon. i was on deadline and i was walking by my mailbox and saw it out of the corner of my eye. i was curious what it was. i said "wow" when i saw it. i was skeptical, poring over it and got a call made to david
barstow whom i have been working on trump-related stuff. he hung up. we went into a room and tried to see how we could verify them and see the flaws and just to understand them. verify and disprove all at the same time. >> have you figured out where they came from? >> they were addressed from the trump tower. we were able to separately verify them on the record via the accountant who signed them jack mittnik. >> but you don't know who was the anonymous donor, if you will? >> usually i ask the questions. i hate it when people say no comment to me, but i have to give no comment. >> i'm just asking if you were able to verify who sent them to you. >> we are not commenting on that. >> okay. in terms of how you frame the story, oiously a lot of work went into how you decided to write the story, the headline and all the rest. how can you infer from this tax
return, the three pages what he may or may not have done in terms of paying federal taxes in subsequent years? >> we know the number which is almost a billion dollars. $915.7 million loss which would have allowed him to reduce taxable income going forward so he wouldn't have to pay tax. we haven't seen the tax returns going forward. we urge mr. trump to release them so we can see. >> do you know anything from your other work? you have done a lot of work with david on his business, profits and losses. do you know anything about what his other investments were? his other real estate properties in the subsequent years to know whether he made profits that he would then deduct this billion dollar loss against? >> these are losses he would have had in the years previous to 1995, potentially going back
15 years under the law at the time. in the late 1980s and 1990s he had business problems. casinos went bankrupt. he had problems with the plaza hotel, problems with an airline he owned. without seeing the documents from the previous years we can't say for sure. we know there were a lot of red ink flowing into the 1995 return. he's able to carry them forward. as we have learned. >> of course the trump campaign has put out a statement saying the only news here is more than 20-year-old alleged tax document was illegally obtained. a further demonstration that the "new york times" establishment in general is an engs tension of the clinton campaign, the democratic party and their global special interests. i'm just putting that out there. that's their comment, of course. but the bottom line is they are not denying this is a legitimate tax document. they are not denying that he
didn't pay federal income taxes. he put out a statement saying he paid a lot of money in local and state taxes. but never denying he failed to pay federal income taxes. >> they haven't denied it. up until now. >> assuming he doesn't put out his tax return to give us a better picture of what he did, in fact, pay. >> the story the "new york times" ran on sunday the beginning to understand there is a lot of discussion that donald trump didn't pay tax. we have an understanding of kpol how he may not have paid tax in a number of recent years. that was through the losses he incurred by the businesses he ran that hit the rocks. going forward we'll continue to press the issuement hopefully more returns will surface and we can gain a better understanding of what his tax situation was and the various businesses he has and what they made and lost.
>> what we also know from our understanding of his tax proposals is that there is nothing in the tax proposals that would eliminate this legal tax break for the real estate industry. >> i think the story and others that will be written in the coming days will spark a discussion about the irs and about the laws that allowed this to happen. sometimes, you know, the don't blame the player, look at the game. that's another important issue in this story. but those tax breaks were won by lobbyists. in the past he said of course i donated to democrats and republicans. that's how you get things done on capitol hill. >> he was part of the discussion. how did it come about? it's an interesting -- a lot of people say he's smart and uses the tax code to his advantage. he's also somebody who had huge
business losses that ran into this that allowed him to do it. the genius argument is one that stretches only so far. we have to look at both sides of it. >> thank you very much. thanks for sharing what you can with us. extraordinary. i think the bottom line is check your mailbox. >> check your mail. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, saturday night fervor. trump rails against clinton surrogate congressman marcia blackburn joins me here next.
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give me a break. give me a break. she's home resting now. getting ready for the next speech which will be about 15 minutes in two or three days. she's got bad temperament. she could be crazy. she could actually be crazy. >> donald trump off prompter unloading on hillary clinton. also suggesting based on nothing at all that hillary clinton may have been unfaithful to her husband. let's watch. >> hillary clinton's only loyalty is to her financial contributors and to herself. i don't even think she's loyal to bill, if you want to know the truth. and really, folks, really, why should she be, right? >> joining me now representative marcia blackburn of tennessee.
surrogate for the trump campaign. republican member of congress. thank you very much. well, first of all, your reaction to donald trump's tweeting against the former miss universe and then his spontaneous comments against hillary clinton on saturday night. >> you know, andrea, i think this is one of those things where he would be well served not to talk about mrs. clinton, her relationship with her husband, talk about miss universe and focus on the issues. the main stream media seems to bolster the stories. when i'm talking to constituents they want to hear about national security, jobs, economic security. if you're going to talk about weight, talk about the weight of the burden of debt that's on our children and grandchildren. we are at $20 trillion worth of debt. those are the issues that people
are focused on. especially when you are talking to female voters, they say let's talk about the future, how to keep the community safe. i want my children safe when they go to school, to college, abroad to study, to a ball game. i want to get past wage stagnation. the obama economy has not been friendly to a lot of female workers. they want to hear more about child care and about the tax credits for child care. those are the things that people are wanting to talk about. >> why do you think after the debate -- >> i would rather this stuff get out of the media and focus on the issues from each candidate. that would be a good thing. >> why do you think donald trump after the debate didn't just say, well, i started off strong on trade and economic issues and then i probably didn't have as great a performance.
why did he keep it up? why the tweets at 3:00 in the morning? it's the candidate keeping this up. >> i would say let it go and focus on the issues, both from mrs. clinton and mr. trump. we are in the last 36 days before the campaign. donald trump is right on so many issues. if you want change, go with donald trump. if you like the status quo you e with mrs. clinton. if you don't think we need to know about benghazi you're with ms. clinton. >> why -- just to understand better he's got chris christie, rudy giuliani, roger ayles, presumably. let me play rudy giuliani with chuck. >> when she first heard about
monica lewinsky to pretend five or six months -- >> she was wrong to stand by her husband? >> no. she was wrong to attack the victim. >> are you the right person to level this charge? >> yeah. i'm the right person to level this charge because i have never such a charge and i have prosecuted people who committed rape. >> you have your own infidelity, sir. >> i'm a roman catholic and i confess to my priest. >> saying everybody cheats, aren't we going off message from what you have just said should be donald trump's message -- the economic message to women and men voters? >> that's right. the top three issues, national security, jobs, economic security and also the family bucket of issues -- child care, retirement security and, of course, an issue you and i are both interested in -- cyber security. i was so pleased to hear him talk about that today.
people are concerned about the loss of privacy and invasion of privacy with what's happening on the internet. they want to protect their virtual you. yes, congress should pass legislation dealing with that. i'm happy to hear him talk about setting up a task force. i would love to hear where hillary clinton is. did she support barack obama in giving away control of the internet? >> do you think the revelation in the "new york times" that he lost almost a billion dollars in that 1995 tax return which they have not disputed that he lost so much money does that under cut his argument that he's a great businessman and will do for the federal budget what he did in business? >> i don't think it undercuts him. i think people look at this and say, well, he utilized the tax code.
this is a reason we need a flat tax for individuals and a lower corporate business tax. i had someone say people have the ability to take risk and take responsibility for the risk and work their way out. this person was talking about going through a reorganization in their business so people want simplicity in the tax code. we also as americans love a comeback story. that's the story of donald trump and building back his business and creating tens of thousands of jobs. understanding the complexities and the expense of the tax code. andrea, at this point in time, compliance costs on businesses in our country take over a
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jamaica. the european model is threatening florida and the east coast of the u.s. later in the week as it moves north. gabe gutierrez joins me from outside port au prince, haiti where it is expected to have a catastrophic impact. this is the poorest nation in the hemispherhemisphere, one th barely sustain another natural disaster. >> it is still struggling to recover after the devastating earthquake six years ago. we have spoken with them and an official there confirms yesterday one person was found dead. another still missing. after already feeling the effects of hurricane matthew in the southern part of the country. this is something that the country is bracing for. they a bracing for up to 40 inches of rain in isolated areas. that could trigger deadly mudslides. that's the fear. the government started evacuating people from the
southern part of the country. today schools are closed. the airport is closed. more than 1,000 emergency shelters are open throughout the country, andrea. >> the reason for the mudslides is that the country is so devastated. they have cut down, deforested, cut down trees, used wood for heat. in comparison to the other part of the island in the dominican republic which is a thriving economy. haiti is so beleaguered. >> yeah, exactly. there is no trees to soak up the water. so the fear is once the rain starts coming down and hear in port au prince expect the rain to pick up later in the day. the tropical storm for the igs cans are expected later tonight and in the southwestern part of the country for hurricane-force winds later tonight and into tomorrow. the storm can cause catastrophic damage. some of the organizations are already planning to fan out over
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let's say seven days. almost seven days since the debate. if you go through day by day. every day there is a story either he creates or that's out there. the most recent one being by the "new york times" on his tax returns. that would kill any other candidacy. the ap story today about donald trump and "the apprentice." these are campaign enders for most people. he continues to sort of move forward. we haven't seen that much polling to suggest how much this last week hurt. i can't imagine it helped but i'm amazed he's able to be in a position to put one foot in front of the other and continue on with the campaign given what we have seen this week. >> generally tells you both sides have flaws. the latest hit against hillary clinton, of course, the leaked audio from a private fund-raiser. during the primary campaign she was campaigning against bernie
sanders. hillary clinton was trying to explain to donors why she was having trouble defeating bernie sanders. she was explaining, i think with a certain amount of empathy the problem she's experienced with the young supporters. you will hear this coming up and sanders responding yesterday. >> they're children of the great recession. and they are living in their parents' basement. they feel that they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. and they don't see much of a future. >> you listen to the whole discussion she had, a very important point she made is that a lot of young people who went into debt, worked very hard to get a good education get out of school and can't find jobs commensurate with the education that they received. there is a lot of unhappiness about young people and this is an issue we must address.
>> contrary to what the trump campaign expected bernie sanders's response was to say, yeah, i agree with what she was saying. he'll campaign for her again an wednesday. i don't know if this really hurt her. she is having trouble getting the millennials. >> she's definitely having trouble getting millennials. this audio actually confirms what millennials have been saying her for some time. the millennials i have been talking to over the last few weeks as i have been writing stories about the trouble she's having with young voters. they are saying they feel president obama, it was great to see him in the white house but he didn't really deliver on the hope and change he sold them on. the idea is they were the generation that would work f lehman brothers. i had friends who had lehman brothers acceptance brothers who cannot have those jobs anymore. a lot of people she's hoping will vote for her and make up the difference and help her.
those are the people like that. i think the young voters she's going after, they won't be offended by the audio we hear. in some minds they are saying she understands why they are upset. she understands what's going on. i should say with the trump campaign they are trying hard to move past scandal after scandal they have had to endure. donald trump has been like teflon. he's been able to weather the storms that would have ended any other candidate's campaign. now we are getting into things that are starting to stick. the perception that he might be a racist, a misogynist and the perception that he may not be a good businessman. he had this enormous tax loss in the 1990s now possibly showing he didn't have to pay federal income taxes. this is the trump campaign hoping to turn a corner and say, look, hillary clinton has her own issues and scandals. >> you were in north carolina
during the difficulties, the conflict over the shooting. she went and was in the church with community activists there. to both of you briefly, north carolina, the importance of north carolina. do they think they can hold north carolina? chris? >> donald trump has to have it. remember, mitt romney won north carolina. he got 206 electoral votes. you select 15 from that and now you're under 200. it's difficult. north carolina, he can't lose any state mitt romney won and have a chance really of winning. north carolina is the front of that list. >> from your experiences down there, how do you think north carolina is reacting having had so much raci turmoil in the last couple of weeks. >> i watched the presidential debate with undecided people at
a republican party. they still feel they couldn't trust donald trump and even though these were white undecided voters, the majority of them. they are troubled by the idea that these racial injustices burst onto the scene of charlotte. they said to me they felt as though it was finally a relief that people are finally talking about this. they said the racial issues in the south could be swept under the rug. it can be something people don't want to talk about. even the republican voters there, the ones that are maybe still considering voting for donald trump really want to see police reform, criminal justice reform. i should say for the protesters i spent a lot of time with, they were not going to be people donald trump would get to vote for them. they were young african-american voters who the polls tell us are increasingly voting for hillary clinton. i should say the majority of them say even if they don't like her or sometimes don't trust hillary clinton they see her as
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years when he played an unforgettable role in this vice presidential debate. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. [ cheers and applause ] >> the story begins seven weeks earlier. andrea mitchell was told by a highly reliable source that senator dan quayle will be vice president bush's choice as his running mate for the mall campaign. >> reporter: bush introduced an enthusiastic dan quayle at a new orleans rally. >> we will win because america cannot afford to lose. >> great, danny, well done. >> reporter: at 41 dan quayle was about the age of bush's youngest son and was new to the national spotlight. >> the question is if we'll go forward to tomorrow or past to the back. >> reporter: almost immediately there were concerns about him. about how he got into the national guard during vietnam. and whether he was experienced enough to be vice president. >> i know perhaps as much about
national security as anybody with few exceptions. >> reporter: he'd be going up against michael dukakis's running mate, senator lloyd benson of texas, a decorated world war ii veteran and a former presidential candidate himself, 26 years dan quayle's senior. >> nobody ever asked the questions about whether or not lloyd benson would be qualified to be president of the united states. >> reporter: dan quayle's readiness was number one on the debate topics. what would happen if he were president? >> first i would say a prayer for myself. for the country that i'm about to lead. then i would assemble his people and talk. >> reporter: he was asked the question again and again. >> surely you must have a plan in mind about what you would do if it fell to you to become president of the united states as it has to so many vice presidents just in the last 25 years or so. >> reporter: as he struggled to answer, dan quayle made a
fateful comparison. >> i have as much experience in the congress as jack kennedy did when he sought the presidency. >> reporter: benson and kennedy were both elected to congress in the late '40s, around the time dan quayle was born. benson had a response ready and pounced. >>enor, iat served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> that was really uncalled for, senator. >> you're the one that was making the comparison, senator. >> reporter: fairly or not benson scored a direct hit. dan quayle needed to dispel widespread concerns among voters about his call if i indicati-- qualifications. -not clear how well he scored in the effort to be presidential. democrats declared the victory. >> i said he was a star and he was. >> reporter: in the end it
didn't matter. dukakis stumbled badly a week later in his debate. bush road reagan's coat tails to a victory and dan quayle became vice president. >> so help me god. >> reporter: there is a reagan postscript to this. he didn't like benson's "you're no jfk" put down. >> i thought the remark was a cheap shot, unbecoming a senator of the united states. >> reporter: four years later bill clinton said, this fellow they have nominated claims he's the new thomas jefferson. well, let me tell you something. i knew thomas jefferson. he was a friend of mine. and, governor, you're no thomas jefferson.
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a stunning defeat in colombia where voters rejected an historic peace agreement between the government and leftist rebels who would have ended a civil war which took four years to negotiate. it was widely expected to pass and failed by a thin margin. last week secretary of state kerry was in colombia to hail the agreement when it was signed. mariana atenzio joins me now. what happens next? >> just to put it in perspective this is a war going on for more than half a century. more than 200,000 people died in
colombia because of the war with the rebls and more than 5 million people have been displaced, especially children. this is latin america's longest raging civil war. to give you an idea of how important it was the deal was negotiated in havana. raul castro informed pope francis peace was on the table. this peace agreement was narrowly rejected by colombians yesterday. the victory for the no campaign was less than 1%. this leaves the colombian government now in limbo. this is an agreement that the colombian government agreed to with rebels that now colombians have rejected. >> we'll see whether they can put the pieces back together. thank you so much. >> a point of personal privilege. aroper send-off for my friend and colleague. our chief pentagon correspondent
jim miklaszewski known here as mik is leaving nbc for fun, family and golf courses yet to be explored. he led through decades of war. reporting minute by minute as the pentagon was under attack. speaking in shanksville, pennsylvania. >> two air force f-16 fighter jets were criss-crossing the sky at a low level. an air force colonel next to me looking up saying it to no one in particular, my god, we are fly i flying c.a.p.s, combat air patrols over the nation's capitol. >> mik was cited with an awardle calling his reporting tough, fair, persistent. that's something those of us at nbc news saw and appreciated every day.
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that does it for "andrea mitchell reports." tune in to msnbc tomorrow for special coverage live from farmville, virginia, ahead of the first and only vice presidential debate. remember to follow the show online on facebook and twitter. hallie jackson is next on msnbc. >> thank you, andrea. hi, everybody. i'm hallie jackson live from d.c. we begin this hour with breaking news. moments ago nbc receiving confirmation that new york's attorney general will be serving the trump foundation with a cease and desist order for operating without proper paperwork. this as trump tries to recover from multiple scandals hitting his campaign over the last 48 hours about taxes, sexism. we have reporters on the road with both candidates plus
reaction from capitol hill. let's start on the phone with katy tur en route to pueblo, colorado, where trump is set to speak in four hours. you are breaking the news of this cease and desist order from the new york attorney general. what can you tell us? >> reporter: the attorney general has served the cease and desist to the trump foundation in direct reaction to the fundraiser he held in january of this year which solicited foundations from folks to raise money for veterans instead of going to the fox news debate in iowa. the problem the attorney general has with the foundation at the moment is that they were doing it without proper certification. they are taking money and soliciting more than $25,000 without the proper paperwork to do so. they are not goeng for the proper audits, filing proper financials to make sure there is the proper oversight over the foundation. the attorney general sent the cease and desist order. it's for this yea